So, here was a London derby for the realists. West Ham, not nearly as bad as their early results might have suggested. Tottenham, not quite the finished article.
Which is what the two managers have been saying. Antonio Conte told Spurs fans to dream after their impressive start to the season while warning about the long road ahead, and talking about room for improvement.
David Moyes has spoken of an exciting future for the Hammers after a busy summer in the transfer market.
Some of his new signings were on display but it was one of his old warriors Tomas Soucek who earned a point for the home team after they slipped behind to a first-half own goal scorer by Thilo Kehrer.