Geoff Horsfield is wearing scruffs, driving his van around Birmingham and, just as he did in his playing days, getting straight to the point.
From no-nonsense centre forward he now earns a living as maintenance man to homes housing dozens of residents from difficult backgrounds.
There are vulnerable adults, former homeless people and some with mental health issues, but Horsfield will be on call to unblock toilets or change lightbulbs, while always taking time for a cuppa and a chat.
It is not a typical post-playing career, but Horsfield, 43, a bricklayer before he cracked professional football, is in his element.