A mischievous grin appears on Joan Capdevila's face when he's told that foreign visitors to Barcelona are often surprised to learn there are two top-flight football teams in the city.
"Really?" he jokes. "There are people that have never heard of Barca?"
Capdevila, a World Cup winner with Spain in 2010, is back working behind the scenes at Espanyol, the other team in Barcelona. Just over 6 kilometres (4 miles) separate the stadiums where the two clubs play, but the gulf between the two sides on just about every other metric is huge.