Five minutes into this interview and Ryan Bertrand’s face lights up. Full of pride, he reflects on the night of September 1, 2017.
For the supporters who stormed out of Malta’s National Stadium in Ta’Qali, long before the final whistle, disgusted that England were only winning 1-0, it’s a night they will want to forget.
Not for Bertrand, though. It will be a night he remembers for ever.
So what exactly is it like to score for England?