Rob Page is a Welshman from the Rhondda Valley. He was a central defender in the Premier League and, as a kid, a decent full back on the rugby field.
But tough men can get emotional, too, and it is when the subject of his mum and dad and a night at the Cardiff City Stadium is raised that the countenance of the Wales manager briefly changes.
'There were tears the night we played Belgium last November,' Page says.
'We needed a point to get to the World Cup play-off, so to get what we needed.