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Middle fingers, high fives and, yes, hugs in the Black Hole

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — Their reputation is notorious, these NFL versions of hooligans, the action on the field often a sidelight to more vicious violence in the stands.

Some of them are downright scary looking, dressed in black, covered with piercings, neck and face tattoos, scowls straight off a mug shot.

But as a buddy and I waded into the depths of Oakland Coliseum's Black Hole, a sense of camaraderie, not fear enveloped us.

"I feel comfortable here," I said.

"These are our people," Peter Elorduy responded.

He nailed it.

As kids, Elorduy and I rode to Raiders games with our dads to watch the Snake, the Ghost and the Mad Stork.