On ESPN's Over the Ball podcast, the new Orlando City gaffer spoke in no uncertain terms about his time at the helm of New York City FC.
"Really excited to be a part of what I think is going to be one of the best clubs in the league," rising Orlando City SC boss Jason Kreis told host Kevin Flynn on this week's Over the Ball podcast.
Indeed, that's all well and good.
But the juiciest cuts from the ESPN pod came when Flynn asked Kreis about his time at NYCFC, the club that removed him after just one season.