That's how I remember Chris Dishman from his days as a Nebraska offensive lineman during the mid-1990s.
The big, friendly dude, who played eight seasons in the NFL, these days is promoting kindness and mental health awareness, for a heartbreaking reason.
"You just really never know what someone is going through," the 45-year-old Dishman told me last week in an interview at a truck stop just west of Lincoln, on his way home from his job in Seward.
Dishman has no earthly idea why his wife, Audra, committed suicide last Aug. 13. The not-knowing part haunts him.