Francesco Graziani makes a most charismatic entrance, with apologies for his late arrival, blaming the Italian traffic and in search of a phone number for Bruce Grobbelaar.
'Do you have one?' he asks. He seems to be serious. No-one does. 'We must try to find one. He must come back to Rome, back to the Olympic Stadium, in front of the fans and we will take the penalty again.'
Graziani perhaps fancies his chances. At 65, he looks as lean and strong as the day he was suckered by Grobbelaar's 'spaghetti legs' in the first European Cup final decided by a penalty shoot-out.