Crystal Palace have made the worst start to a Premier League season of any club in history, losing four without scoring a goal, and their form has cost Frank de Boer his job.
Eddie Howe is facing similar difficulties at Bournemouth, with only goal difference keeping his team away from sitting bottom of the table.
With concern growing over their failure to get points on the board, talkSPORT.com wanted to see where other Premier League clubs who lost their opening four games finished that season and if faith was kept in the manager.