Sunday's 4-1 scoreline at the Etihad Stadium and the current 22 points between the teams in the Premier League table speaks volumes about the gulf that has been allowed to open up between Manchester United and Manchester City.
But everyone knows on-pitch matters only scratch the surface of the enormous differences between these two rivals at present. And, for that matter, between United and Liverpool.
While City and Liverpool have become expert in long-term planning, of getting behind a manager and their philosophy, of signing players that slot effortlessly into their system to make them better, United have been shambolic.