GOODYEAR, Arizona -- Terry Francona and I were talking about managers.
It was a relaxed Arizona spring training morning, and the Tribe manager was in a very relaxed, reflective mood.
"I was not a very good player," said Francona. "I moved around so much (playing for five different teams in 11 years). I saw a lot that I admired, and I few I didn't like."
In 1981, Francona was a rookie with Montreal when Dick Williams was the manager. It was a different era when rookies often were hazed by veterans, ignored by managers.
"Dick Williams wouldn't talk to you," said Francona.