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Florida State's Mike Norvell, Miami's Manny Diaz discuss their teams' early struggles this college football season

Let's get one thing straight right off the top: Miami and Florida State are not the championship programs we all remember from decades past. Or in the case of Florida State, from eight years ago.

These are two programs that have more recently finished with losing records in the same season (2019) than as AP top-10 teams (2000).

But watching Miami lose at home to Michigan State 38-17 and Florida State fall at Wake Forest 35-14 last Saturday still felt jarring. Florida State is 0-3 for the first time since 1976; Miami is 1-2 after starting the season ranked No.